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	<title>Comments on: Need help</title>
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		<title>By: gkr</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>gkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll ask about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll ask about that.</p>
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		<title>By: foote3</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>foote3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a CPAP user, while the jaw may not be closed, the lips need to be or the CPAP can&#039;t do its job.

What about a mouth guard or some such in tandem with a chin-strap?  That way the air passage through the lips is blocked from the inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a CPAP user, while the jaw may not be closed, the lips need to be or the CPAP can&#8217;t do its job.</p>
<p>What about a mouth guard or some such in tandem with a chin-strap?  That way the air passage through the lips is blocked from the inside.</p>
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		<title>By: euterpe35</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-703</link>
		<dc:creator>euterpe35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://tonyawinter.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tonya Winter&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe <a href="http://tonyawinter.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tonya Winter</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: gargoylettelc</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>gargoylettelc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm.  I would think that a RT *may* have encountered this problem before, but perhaps not.  Talk to her MD/pulmonologist/neurologist, or whoever is overseeing all of this.  Maybe jaw closure would be enough for CPAP, as it&#039;s not uncommon for jaws to be a little open during sleep.  I&#039;m not sure if OT or SLP would be helpful or not.  I&#039;ll ask around at work, BUT note I&#039;m leaving for RenFaire tomorrow, home on Sun, so answers could be delayed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm.  I would think that a RT *may* have encountered this problem before, but perhaps not.  Talk to her MD/pulmonologist/neurologist, or whoever is overseeing all of this.  Maybe jaw closure would be enough for CPAP, as it&#8217;s not uncommon for jaws to be a little open during sleep.  I&#8217;m not sure if OT or SLP would be helpful or not.  I&#8217;ll ask around at work, BUT note I&#8217;m leaving for RenFaire tomorrow, home on Sun, so answers could be delayed.</p>
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		<title>By: burgunder</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>burgunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gauze garter belt combo where the garter wraps around the back side of her head under her hair?

I&#039;ll ask a few friends who do more top-bondage if they have any ideas over the next few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gauze garter belt combo where the garter wraps around the back side of her head under her hair?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll ask a few friends who do more top-bondage if they have any ideas over the next few days.</p>
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		<title>By: gkr</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>gkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, that isn&#039;t working for her.  It holds her jaw closed, but not her lips.  It is what inspired my thinking though.  Something like that, possibly incorporating latex or rubber, and covering her mouth as well as the chin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, that isn&#8217;t working for her.  It holds her jaw closed, but not her lips.  It is what inspired my thinking though.  Something like that, possibly incorporating latex or rubber, and covering her mouth as well as the chin.</p>
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		<title>By: malackey</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>malackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe those bandages they use after one has cosmetic surgery - it&#039;s kind of a soft velcro-y thing that wraps from under the chin and fastens on top of the head.  Pulled a little bit forward under the chin, it does serve to help push the lips together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe those bandages they use after one has cosmetic surgery &#8211; it&#8217;s kind of a soft velcro-y thing that wraps from under the chin and fastens on top of the head.  Pulled a little bit forward under the chin, it does serve to help push the lips together.</p>
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		<title>By: gkr</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator>gkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct.</p>
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		<title>By: gkr</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>gkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She doesn&#039;t need to hold her mouth closed around the apparatus.  She needs to hold her mouth closed.  Otherwise the machine pumps air in her nose and out her mouth.  Right now, she can close her mouth, but she can&#039;t keep it closed.  So it&#039;s not completely slack.  But effectively it is.  They have a chin strap she can use, but since she can&#039;t press her lips closed it doesn&#039;t do any good.

Her other option is using a full face mask, in which the breathing goes through both the mouth and nose.  But that&#039;s not working for other reasons.  We might come up with a solution for that separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She doesn&#8217;t need to hold her mouth closed around the apparatus.  She needs to hold her mouth closed.  Otherwise the machine pumps air in her nose and out her mouth.  Right now, she can close her mouth, but she can&#8217;t keep it closed.  So it&#8217;s not completely slack.  But effectively it is.  They have a chin strap she can use, but since she can&#8217;t press her lips closed it doesn&#8217;t do any good.</p>
<p>Her other option is using a full face mask, in which the breathing goes through both the mouth and nose.  But that&#8217;s not working for other reasons.  We might come up with a solution for that separately.</p>
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		<title>By: evillinn</title>
		<link>http://www.kingrat.us/2007/08/need-help#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>evillinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind, I looked it up.  
So, no apparatus in the mouth, but stuff around the upper part of her face, it looks like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind, I looked it up.<br />
So, no apparatus in the mouth, but stuff around the upper part of her face, it looks like?</p>
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